Comments on: Ethan McCord and all Anti-war Veterans: Icons of the Great Turning http://bradleymanning.org/15411/ethan-mccord-and-all-anti-war-veterans-icons-of-the-great-turning/ Exposing war crimes is not a crime! Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:28:23 +0000 hourly 1 By: Adam http://bradleymanning.org/15411/ethan-mccord-and-all-anti-war-veterans-icons-of-the-great-turning/comment-page-1/#comment-7399 Adam Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:40:31 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=15411#comment-7399 Government who fear the truth will eventually torture their own citizen in order to keep information from the public. when governments, agencies, shadow forces etc...commit crimes secretly it will hunt those responsible somehow. The internet is connecting the best minds of the world, some are afraid of that. Just think...We are living in a Era when some are spending $11 million on decorations hotel lobbies while others can't afford basic education or drinking water. Governments need to understand that fighting against poverty creates jobs, while wars create short term profits for professional warlords. support peace and justice always... Government who fear the truth will eventually torture their own citizen in order to keep information from the public.

when governments, agencies, shadow forces etc…commit crimes secretly it will hunt those responsible somehow.

The internet is connecting the best minds of the world, some are afraid of that. Just think…We are living in a Era when some are spending $11 million on decorations hotel lobbies while others can’t afford basic education or drinking water.

Governments need to understand that fighting against poverty creates jobs, while wars create short term profits for professional warlords.

support peace and justice always…

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By: Usman http://bradleymanning.org/15411/ethan-mccord-and-all-anti-war-veterans-icons-of-the-great-turning/comment-page-1/#comment-6854 Usman Fri, 17 Dec 2010 13:02:24 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=15411#comment-6854 war is necessary to eradicate the evil. but unfortunately wars are not being fought with this spirit and focus. I respect the contribution and sacrifice of for Mr. Mannon and Mr. McCord. war is necessary to eradicate the evil. but unfortunately wars are not being fought with this spirit and focus. I respect the contribution and sacrifice of for Mr. Mannon and Mr. McCord.

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By: Mohammed AL-Saedi http://bradleymanning.org/15411/ethan-mccord-and-all-anti-war-veterans-icons-of-the-great-turning/comment-page-1/#comment-6651 Mohammed AL-Saedi Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:46:40 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=15411#comment-6651 Spain Begins Investigation Of Obama For Crimes Against Humanity By: John Caruso A Spanish judge today opened preliminary investigations into claims that Predator drone attacks on Pakistan warranted the prosecution of Barack Obama and six senior U.S. officials for crimes against humanity. Judge Fernando Andreu agreed to ­investigate the deaths of 21 people, including children, who died when Obama ordered U.S. Predator drone attacks on targets in Pakistan. [...] The magistrate accepted that the aim of the attack had been to kill suspected members of "the terrorist group called al Qaeda". But the United States appeared to have fired so many missiles that it was inevitably going to kill many other innocent people living nearby, Andreu said. No, not really; sorry to get your hopes up. Here's the actual story: A Spanish judge today opened preliminary investigations into claims that a bomb attack on Gaza in 2002 warranted the prosecution of a former Israeli defence minister and six senior military officers for crimes against humanity. Judge Fernando Andreu agreed to ­investigate the deaths of 15 Palestinians, mostly babies and children, who died when the Israeli air force bombed a target in Gaza City. [...] The magistrate accepted that the aim of the 2002 attack had been to kill Saleh ­Shehadeh, who he described as a suspected leader of "the terrorist group called Hamas". But the Israeli air force appeared to have dropped such a huge bomb on Shehadeh's house that it was inevitably going to kill many other innocent people living nearby, Andreu said. Spain Begins Investigation Of Obama For Crimes Against Humanity
By: John Caruso

A Spanish judge today opened preliminary investigations into claims that Predator drone attacks on Pakistan warranted the prosecution of Barack Obama and six senior U.S. officials for crimes against humanity.

Judge Fernando Andreu agreed to ­investigate the deaths of 21 people, including children, who died when Obama ordered U.S. Predator drone attacks on targets in Pakistan. [...]

The magistrate accepted that the aim of the attack had been to kill suspected members of “the terrorist group called al Qaeda”.

But the United States appeared to have fired so many missiles that it was inevitably going to kill many other innocent people living nearby, Andreu said.

No, not really; sorry to get your hopes up. Here’s the actual story:

A Spanish judge today opened preliminary investigations into claims that a bomb attack on Gaza in 2002 warranted the prosecution of a former Israeli defence minister and six senior military officers for crimes against humanity.

Judge Fernando Andreu agreed to ­investigate the deaths of 15 Palestinians, mostly babies and children, who died when the Israeli air force bombed a target in Gaza City. [...]

The magistrate accepted that the aim of the 2002 attack had been to kill Saleh ­Shehadeh, who he described as a suspected leader of “the terrorist group called Hamas”.

But the Israeli air force appeared to have dropped such a huge bomb on Shehadeh’s house that it was inevitably going to kill many other innocent people living nearby, Andreu said.

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By: Katharine Dawn http://bradleymanning.org/15411/ethan-mccord-and-all-anti-war-veterans-icons-of-the-great-turning/comment-page-1/#comment-6317 Katharine Dawn Sat, 11 Dec 2010 00:51:27 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=15411#comment-6317 Hi Doug. Thanks for your thoughtful comment. It is, of course, a very different world today from the world of the last few millenia when human beings' campaigns for freedom, self determination and justice were more isolated... Now, really because of the internet, we are a practically connected Community of Earth - Avaaz is one expression of this unified voice. With the Wikileaks releases, AT LAST everyone is confronted by the hard evidence of what is going on in the dynamics of our world... It is a new world environment : it is TRANSPARENT. In this new clarity, a LINE has been drawn, and everyone is taking their place - either FOR EMPIRE with all its deception and devastation and power-over or FOR EARTH COMMUNITY with its rejection of criminality and corruption, its authentic human values. Anyway, Doug, my point is that NOW the world is a small, interconnected place and the ENDING of WAR will be achieved now - like ALL the other crises we face at this time - from the GRASSROOTS. If there's no 'Universal Soldier' pulling the trigger, there's NO WARRING : I SUPPORT the Anti-Recruitment Campaign - WE ARE NOT YOUR SOLDIERS. www.wearenotyoursoldiers.org Peace, Katharine Hi Doug. Thanks for your thoughtful comment. It is, of course, a very different world today from the world of the last few millenia when human beings’ campaigns for freedom, self determination and justice were more isolated… Now, really because of the internet, we are a practically connected Community of Earth – Avaaz is one expression of this unified voice. With the Wikileaks releases, AT LAST everyone is confronted by the hard evidence of what is going on in the dynamics of our world… It is a new world environment : it is TRANSPARENT. In this new clarity, a LINE has been drawn, and everyone is taking their place – either FOR EMPIRE with all its deception and devastation and power-over or FOR EARTH COMMUNITY with its rejection of criminality and corruption, its authentic human values. Anyway, Doug, my point is that NOW the world is a small, interconnected place and the ENDING of WAR will be achieved now – like ALL the other crises we face at this time – from the GRASSROOTS. If there’s no ‘Universal Soldier’ pulling the trigger, there’s NO WARRING : I SUPPORT the Anti-Recruitment Campaign – WE ARE NOT YOUR SOLDIERS. http://www.wearenotyoursoldiers.org Peace, Katharine

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By: DougBuchanan.com http://bradleymanning.org/15411/ethan-mccord-and-all-anti-war-veterans-icons-of-the-great-turning/comment-page-1/#comment-6214 DougBuchanan.com Fri, 10 Dec 2010 00:13:16 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=15411#comment-6214 Easily notice that the experience of Ethan McCord is similar to hundreds of millions of such experiences throughout the history of wars. And notice the individual and organizational reactions are similar. Notice that wars continue, while objection to wars continues. Now consider that throughout human history, certain people have methodically and tediously asked and answered all the questions of the above identified contradiction, leaning the knowledge to efficiently resolve the contradiction, therefore by inherently resulting logic identifying the process to end wars, defeating all opposition, inherent to resolving the contradiction. But to offer the knowledge to the peace and anti-war organization leaders, as has been done hundreds of times, is like offering the knowledge to war Generals, likewise done hundreds of times, both dependent upon the existence of wars for their income and organizational leadership ego gratification, much to the resulting amusement of those who spent so much time to tediously learn that inordinately valuable knowledge useful for organization leaders. But the leaders want power, not knowledge, inherent to the corruption of organizational power. You can send donations to war leaders or peace leaders, for the same effect, as the test of time proves. Your only escape is to learn the knowledge, not support organization leaders. Let me know if you know any anti-war organization leaders who want to learn the process to stop wars, or if you know any military Generals who want to efficiently win their wars, to thus each end the need for their jobs. Respectfully, DougBuchanan.com Easily notice that the experience of Ethan McCord is similar to hundreds of millions of such experiences throughout the history of wars.

And notice the individual and organizational reactions are similar.

Notice that wars continue, while objection to wars continues.

Now consider that throughout human history, certain people have methodically and tediously asked and answered all the questions of the above identified contradiction, leaning the knowledge to efficiently resolve the contradiction, therefore by inherently resulting logic identifying the process to end wars, defeating all opposition, inherent to resolving the contradiction.

But to offer the knowledge to the peace and anti-war organization leaders, as has been done hundreds of times, is like offering the knowledge to war Generals, likewise done hundreds of times, both dependent upon the existence of wars for their income and organizational leadership ego gratification, much to the resulting amusement of those who spent so much time to tediously learn that inordinately valuable knowledge useful for organization leaders. But the leaders want power, not knowledge, inherent to the corruption of organizational power.

You can send donations to war leaders or peace leaders, for the same effect, as the test of time proves.

Your only escape is to learn the knowledge, not support organization leaders.

Let me know if you know any anti-war organization leaders who want to learn the process to stop wars, or if you know any military Generals who want to efficiently win their wars, to thus each end the need for their jobs.

Respectfully, DougBuchanan.com

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