Comments on: Former Commander of Headquarters Company at Quantico Objects to Treatment of Bradley Manning http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/ Exposing war crimes is not a crime! Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:20:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: Shelley Fox-Loken http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/comment-page-1/#comment-9720 Shelley Fox-Loken Tue, 01 Feb 2011 18:27:31 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=16017#comment-9720 This letter was inspirational...and Right On! I would also like to point out that in addition to Pfc Manning being treated "differently" due to his "side" of an issue (as in, North was on the side of the then administration) there are countless instances of people being treated differently NOT because their BEHAVIOR was different, but because their motivations or belief systems were different. We see this in who is prosecuted for crimes (especially victimless crimes) and who is given a pass. This is where bias based on race, religion (especially if you are openly Muslim) and class comes into play in the criminal justice system (which I retired from after 20 years). But I have seen countless examples of the strong arm of the law bearing down on people ONLY due to their belief or stand on an issue. This is most clearly seen in peaceful protests where leftists/progressives are dealt with harshly, often being gassed and assaulted, while their counterparts in the right/conservative protests and get a police escort (all while many in the crowd are armed in some of them) and are NEVER arrested or assaulted. And this is NOT because they are more peaceful... We claim to have Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press. But that freedom only extends fully to those who agree with the status quo. Those of us who disagree are shut down at every opportunity. Pfc Manning is but one (and one of the worst) examples of this. He is a hero, but he will be vilified by those who have a vested in keeping things as they are...a pro-war, pro-oppression country. This will soon loose for us what little respect we have left in the world. This letter was inspirational…and Right On! I would also like to point out that in addition to Pfc Manning being treated “differently” due to his “side” of an issue (as in, North was on the side of the then administration) there are countless instances of people being treated differently NOT because their BEHAVIOR was different, but because their motivations or belief systems were different. We see this in who is prosecuted for crimes (especially victimless crimes) and who is given a pass. This is where bias based on race, religion (especially if you are openly Muslim) and class comes into play in the criminal justice system (which I retired from after 20 years). But I have seen countless examples of the strong arm of the law bearing down on people ONLY due to their belief or stand on an issue. This is most clearly seen in peaceful protests where leftists/progressives are dealt with harshly, often being gassed and assaulted, while their counterparts in the right/conservative protests and get a police escort (all while many in the crowd are armed in some of them) and are NEVER arrested or assaulted. And this is NOT because they are more peaceful…

We claim to have Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press. But that freedom only extends fully to those who agree with the status quo. Those of us who disagree are shut down at every opportunity. Pfc Manning is but one (and one of the worst) examples of this. He is a hero, but he will be vilified by those who have a vested in keeping things as they are…a pro-war, pro-oppression country. This will soon loose for us what little respect we have left in the world.

]]> By: Elsa Voelcker http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/comment-page-1/#comment-9572 Elsa Voelcker Sat, 29 Jan 2011 03:51:16 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=16017#comment-9572 It is this kind of treatment that makes us doubt that we live in a democracy. ThIs treatment of people gives us no right to condem other countries actions. It is this kind of treatment that makes us doubt that we live in a democracy. ThIs treatment of people gives us no right to condem other countries actions.

]]> By: Gary Joseph Chandler http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/comment-page-1/#comment-9570 Gary Joseph Chandler Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:35:00 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=16017#comment-9570 somebody could make a computer, put all of the writings of Franklin, Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Adams, and the rest and ask them what They think of the Bushes, the wars, and all. I wonder what they would say about the Palin's FCS!? somebody could make a computer, put all of the writings of Franklin, Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Adams, and the rest and ask them what They think of the Bushes, the wars, and all. I wonder what they would say about the Palin’s FCS!?

]]> By: Gary Joseph Chandler http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/comment-page-1/#comment-9568 Gary Joseph Chandler Sat, 29 Jan 2011 02:22:17 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=16017#comment-9568 @ Peter, I would only change your last word from 'principles' to 'ideals', as this action followed the 'standards' of the America I have observed for 6 decades. @ Nina, the children in that van are etched into my mind. The men who did that, how many more 'notches'? Gandhi also said, "It would be a good idea!" when asked what he thought of Western Civilization. Clarence Darrow, "A real patriot hates injustice, foremost in their own country." Mark Twain, "True patriotism always supports its Nation, but its Government ONLY when it deserves it." I wish America's founding fathers could be 'polled' on how succesful they would rank their DREAM/nightmare. They would be on Bradley's side! @ Peter, I would only change your last word from ‘principles’ to ‘ideals’, as this action followed the ‘standards’ of the America I have observed for 6 decades.
@ Nina, the children in that van are etched into my mind. The men who did that, how many more ‘notches’?
Gandhi also said, “It would be a good idea!” when asked what he thought of Western Civilization.
Clarence Darrow, “A real patriot hates injustice, foremost in their own country.”
Mark Twain, “True patriotism always supports its Nation, but its Government ONLY when it deserves it.”
I wish America’s founding fathers could be ‘polled’ on how succesful they would rank their DREAM/nightmare. They would be on Bradley’s side!

]]> By: DOROTHY FILA http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/comment-page-1/#comment-9551 DOROTHY FILA Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:44:37 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=16017#comment-9551 I am ashamed of our government over many things but the treatment of Bradley Manning is the worst. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? This has shades of natzi Germany, this is the change President Obama brought to our country? Shame on our country, no wonder the rest of the world hate us, guess they saw our country for what it is long before the people did. Why did the Bush administration walk away free?Why did Obama say he was not going to look back but ahead? Where does that apply to this young man, Bradley Manning?President Obama may enjoy high ratings in the polls but wait until the next election when the people speak up. FREEDOM OF SPEECH , yeah right! They spoke out ast the last election also. I am ashamed of our government over many things but the treatment of Bradley Manning is the worst. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? This has shades of natzi Germany, this is the change President Obama brought to our country? Shame on our country, no wonder the rest of the world hate us, guess they saw our country for what it is long before the people did. Why did the Bush administration walk away free?Why did Obama say he was not going to look back but ahead? Where does that apply to this young man, Bradley Manning?President Obama may enjoy high ratings in the polls but wait until the next election when the people speak up. FREEDOM OF SPEECH , yeah right! They spoke out ast the last election also.

]]> By: Nina Kethevan http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/comment-page-1/#comment-9536 Nina Kethevan Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:34:41 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=16017#comment-9536 Dear General Amos, I find myself worrying daily about Bradley Manning. He has become part of my life although I have never met him. I cannot bear that he is being treated so inhumanely. People like him shed light onto a very dark world. Gandhi said: "There is no God higher than the Truth." Thank you for your consideration. Nina Kethevan Dear General Amos,

I find myself worrying daily about Bradley Manning.
He has become part of my life although I have never met him.
I cannot bear that he is being treated so inhumanely.
People like him shed light onto a very dark world.
Gandhi said: “There is no God higher than the Truth.”

Thank you for your consideration.

Nina Kethevan

]]> By: Bruce Ewen http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/comment-page-1/#comment-9522 Bruce Ewen Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:13:56 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=16017#comment-9522 The American people have a right to know what is going on all around the world, and the lies we have been told to justify the wasting of our taxes and the lives of our fine young people in wars that have violated the freedoms of so many people around the world, like on 9/11/1973 - the U.S. - sponsored military coup in Chile, the assassination of General Letelier by the CIA, putting the fascist Agosto Pinochet in power to lead the coup, guided by radio messages from members of the U.S. Seventh Fleet off the harbor of Valparaiso. This was followed by a 20 year reign of terror against the Chilean people - a regime led by Pinochet that was cited by Amnesty International as the greatest violation of human rights since Adoph Hitler. It took 25 years for this information to be de-classified. The de-classification of this material resulted in no danger to the national security of the U.S. It made it clear the Henry Kissinger is a was criminal, just like Richard Nixon. Where is the trial, the solitary confinement, the "suicide watch" for Kissinger? Whatever the outcome of the trial, cruel and unusual punishment is not justified. I continue to be shocked by the inhumane treatment by the U.S. government of so many people. That is not what our country is supposed to be about. No fascism here! Justice for the real war criminals, the murderers, the torturers, and protect the rights of the whistleblowers. If it is found that a crime has been committed, let the court system determine the punishment, not the pre-trial officers. I tell you this, fellow Americans, if we do not stand up for what is morally right, we will pay dearly for this some day, when we will all be called to account for our crimes and our complicity in it, by the world court. The American people have a right to know what is going on all around the world, and the lies we have been told to justify the wasting of our taxes and the lives of our fine young people in wars that have violated the freedoms of so many people around the world, like on 9/11/1973 – the U.S. – sponsored military coup in Chile, the assassination of General Letelier by the CIA, putting the fascist Agosto Pinochet in power to lead the coup, guided by radio messages from members of the U.S. Seventh Fleet off the harbor of Valparaiso. This was followed by a 20 year reign of terror against the Chilean people – a regime led by Pinochet that was cited by Amnesty International as the greatest violation of human rights since Adoph Hitler. It took 25 years for this information to be de-classified. The de-classification of this material resulted in no danger to the national security of the U.S. It made it clear the Henry Kissinger is a was criminal, just like Richard Nixon. Where is the trial, the solitary confinement, the “suicide watch” for Kissinger?

Whatever the outcome of the trial, cruel and unusual punishment is not justified. I continue to be shocked by the inhumane treatment by the U.S. government of so many people. That is not what our country is supposed to be about. No fascism here! Justice for the real war criminals, the murderers, the torturers, and protect the rights of the whistleblowers. If it is found that a crime has been committed, let the court system determine the punishment, not the pre-trial officers.

I tell you this, fellow Americans, if we do not stand up for what is morally right, we will pay dearly for this some day, when we will all be called to account for our crimes and our complicity in it, by the world court.

]]> By: Jim http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/comment-page-1/#comment-9521 Jim Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:05:31 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=16017#comment-9521 I support Mr. Bradley Manning and his actions in exposing the murderous and illegal actions of the Officer's corps of the u.s. army and marine corps. Manning is the HERO and his commanding officers are the Villains in this case and many more like it. Enlisted soldiers need to REVOLT against their officer corps and form 'SOLDIERS COUNCILS' like their British and Russian comrades have in the past! u.s. airforce veteran,...Jim I support Mr. Bradley Manning and his actions in exposing the murderous and illegal actions of the Officer’s corps of the u.s. army and marine corps. Manning is the HERO and his commanding officers are the Villains in this case and many more like it. Enlisted soldiers need to REVOLT against their officer corps and form ‘SOLDIERS COUNCILS’ like their British and Russian comrades have in the past!

u.s. airforce veteran,…Jim

]]> By: Peter Everts http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/comment-page-1/#comment-9515 Peter Everts Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:00:06 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=16017#comment-9515 As a former combat infantry officer (Vietnam), I find this treatment of a soldier to be unconscionable. The UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) does not allow for inhumane treatment of prisoners. It also calls for swift adjudication and charges. The officers in charge of this charlie foxtrot should be brought up on charges, prosecuted and Manning either charged, tried and adjudicated or freed. This is disgusting and completely against America's principles. As a former combat infantry officer (Vietnam), I find this treatment of a soldier to be unconscionable. The UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) does not allow for inhumane treatment of prisoners. It also calls for swift adjudication and charges. The officers in charge of this charlie foxtrot should be brought up on charges, prosecuted and Manning either charged, tried and adjudicated or freed. This is disgusting and completely against America’s principles.

]]> By: Gary Joseph Chandler http://bradleymanning.org/16017/former-commander-of-headquarters-company-at-quantico-objects-to-treatment-of-bradley-manning/comment-page-1/#comment-9492 Gary Joseph Chandler Thu, 27 Jan 2011 07:35:08 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=16017#comment-9492 Still no charges against the trigger happy helicopter gunmen? As a Canadian, I wish I could sue them for the ugly pictures they put it in my mind and the lack of confidence they have engendered in for humanity and for America. Manning was morally correct, the World HAD to know what is going on. The REAL issue is murder, NOT whistle-blowing. Still no charges against the trigger happy helicopter gunmen?
As a Canadian, I wish I could sue them for the ugly pictures they put it in my mind and the lack of confidence they have engendered in for humanity and for America. Manning was morally correct, the World HAD to know what is going on. The REAL issue is murder, NOT whistle-blowing.

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