Komentáře k příspěvku: (English) World History Before Our Eyes

Od: Katharine Dawn

Katharine Dawn — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:45:49 +0000

Thank you, Old Russian, for your concerns regarding the many persons whose warcrimes are documented in the Afghan War Files – now exposed to all the world. I can’t see how WikiLeaks could have shared these files in any other way than how they were written, and this HAD to be shared. This is certainly the Greatest Leak in History and, I believe, it will prove crucial to the Ending of War, to the rejection of the US military policy of „Full-Spectrum Dominance“, and to the demand by the people that we now channel human ingenuity and planetary resources AWAY FROM destruction and immiseration and, rather, TOWARDS the healing of the Earth, humanity and the web of life, and the co-creation of the world that the vast majority of us want to live in – one that bequeaths a living earth to future generations, one of peace and plenty for all (a goal that would cost a FRACTION of the money and manpower currently put into ruination).
With the release of the Afghan War logs, the truth has been unleashed. We are at an incredible moment. To those who had still believed in the glossy lies of governmental and military propaganda, the criminality of war is irrevocably exposed. I feel strongly that the youth – who, beguiled or desperate or for whatever reason, had joined the armed forces and haplessly found themselves in war zones, dehumanized and bullied, reportedly on speed while in the field and fed anti-remorse drugs ‘the morning after’ – need the support of the community of Peace activists. Their’s is a terrible load! Now is early times — we need time to collectively reel from the impact of this Greatest Leak in World History, we need to feel our outrage at war crimes and at having been so terribly lied to. But, Old Russian, I share here my deepest hope : that the international Community of Humanity — in our authority as the true and free people of the earth – offer clemency to ALL who have committed war crimes — if they become Conscientious Objectors, refuse to serve as the instruments of crimes against humanity, and support the call for Total Disarmament.

Od: Katharine Dawn

Katharine Dawn — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:18:37 +0000

Thank you, Everyone who has read and commented upon this article and all who are prepared to face truth in these pivotal and confronting times. As psychopathic forces ever escalate the destruction and immiseration of life on earth (check how many countries are in the anti-people grip of IMF macro-economic policies, and check how a mere 7 per cent of the global military budget would be enough to fulfill the Millenium Development Goals – which include ‘eradication of poverty’, ‘achieving environmental sustainability’, etc, etc), the people NEED the truth to make informed decisions. I believe that – if properly informed – the people would choose to divert our money and resources and ingenuity AWAY from misery and injustice, and rather work together to co-create a good life, a peaceful, sustainable and just world.
Thank you, FengNian for sharing with us from inside China : the internet is the People’s Media – it is HOW we learn the truth. The control of Western media (and Western governments, for that matter)by the power elite is well documented. Re the US – China policy, Webster Tarpley’s 2008 interviews : „The men behind Obama“ are still edifying — youtube or check at
http://www.wholetruthcoalition.org/2008/11/06/the-men-behind-obama/ Obama is a well-groomed puppet of the real rulers of the world… I can’t believe how many intelligent people who advocate positive social change still think Obama might be ‘on the side of people and life’ !! For me, hope and belief in a positive future depends entirely upon authentic human values… and to reach those treasures, requires, I believe, breaking through the matrix, bursting the bubble of the lies. It’s about reclaiming our humanity, and doing what we all so want to do : ie, that which is right.

Od: FengNian

FengNian — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:55:05 +0000

As someone from an irrelevant country (China), I really hope Mr. Manning could be saved from any penalty for his conscience. But how can some of his disclosure become secrets in the first place? I can understand flaws of weapons should be classified, but one really doesn’t have to know innocent people were killed from NOFORN documents. It is only a secret in the West, but never in Iraq or Afghanistan. Even reporters of Reuters were killed there, but did Reuters ever tell you the stories of victims that they saw, or they sincerely never know it? US always say China should have more press freedom, but I don’t think American people know more facts than Chinese.

I know you won’t believe me, but in fact US gov. has never stopped their attempts to turn China into a Iraq/Afghanistan like place. It is not a secret in China that last year NED or CIA related institutions indirectly/directly organized and employed terrorists to kill innocent Chinese civilians in a scale of thousands, while news agencies like Reuters told the West it was an evidence of “Chinese bloody oppression” or like. The year before, they did similar things in Tibet, but invented another story for you. Unfortunately you don’t have people in your related departments with enough mercy, conscience and courage like Mr. Manning, to tell how some of your tax money was spent. It is not a hate message from me, my country (not people) probably did similar nasty things too, but the victims are almost always those who have nothing to do with any crimes. It is just a fact that some guys are making money from conflicts/wars that they made, using the state machines or paid taxes from others for investment. I thought Obama could be better than Bush on these matters, if he really is, US must be not actually run by him. I am not so optimistic these things will be much less in future, even if, under your help, Mr. Manning finally gets fair treatment that he deserves. Good luck.

With best regards (and sorry if I disturbed you)

Od: Old Russian

Old Russian — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:58:56 +0000

As a person who immigrated from Russia to States, having served in Afghanistan during the 80s and knowing this kitchen not by reading newspapers, but from the inside…, to some degree I can understand why he did what he did. One of my many concerns I have with this incident is that persons’ names documented and leaked into public are now going to be used by radicals to be made example of. Very irresponsible move not by Mr. Manning, but publishers. The TIME magazine will soon publish an article telling a story of a single woman who cheated on her husband and actions taken towards her by Taliban. It will make you think in a bit different perspective.

Od: pete

pete — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:17:51 +0000

Now we can all see that the military complex will bring trumped up charges against Bradley and if this was no breach of security because the info was already in the public domain – there should be no charges!
He did an honorable act and deed and deserves the medal of honor.

Free Prv Manning now. He only exposed war crimes of the US military, we feel sorry for the soldiers who are naively serving their war masters and being shot up with experimental drugs to boot, they are already in a mind controlled state and drugged zombies.

Od: RedLeg 6

RedLeg 6 — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:11:52 +0000

Completely wrong. Whatever your armchair general take on that video is, it’s not an ROE violation. If Manning disagreed with that, there is a proper channel for his dissent, and it isn’t wikileaks.

Od: RedLeg 6

RedLeg 6 — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:09:01 +0000

The Apache crew will have absolutely no consequences, I can promise you that. Tough call, their chain of command will not throw them under the bus for making it.

Manning will do at least 50 years. They just brought in the FBI and DOJ to help Army CID with the case. They aren’t going to botch this one. His current counts added up to 50 years, if they pin him with the Afghan info leak, he will end up dying in prison.

Whatever you think we did, the Army will be fine. The organization has been through much worse than this, and emerged stronger every time.

Od: RedLeg 6

RedLeg 6 — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:05:30 +0000

What a load. Any soldier recieving a TS level clearance knows exactly what he is getting into. They don’t hand those out.

Saying he has no option makes me question if you have even served. There are multiple options for an objecting soldier.

Od: RedLeg 6

RedLeg 6 — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:02:53 +0000

Good Lord. fundamental lack of understanding of what it is like to be in a combat zone, in an urban environment, in the dark. This is like explaining sex to virgins.

Reporters know the risk. You can travel with official sanction of either government, and keep operating units apprised of your situation, or you can go it alone and risk getting lit up by an Apache pilot who can’t tell a camera from an RPG in the dark.

Oh yeah, there is a curfew genius’s. That pilot knows noone is supposed to be out after dark, let alone 4 people carrying equipment. Tough call, he made it. Sorry folks, that’s war.

Od: RedLeg 6

RedLeg 6 — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:58:25 +0000

What military were you in cheesedick? Spain’s?