Comments on: Presentation by Bradley’s attorney David Coombs, transcript and video

By: free manning

free manning — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:51:35 +0000

corrupt gov says: if people know about our war crimes they wont like us, instead of not commiting war crimes to be liked lets just punish/kill whoever leaks them. punishing whistleblowers and letting the gov-paid murderers go free and not be fired, and covering up war crimes and gov corruption makes gov look way way worse than a few inevitable gov paid murderers.
tyrants agisnt manning say other countries finding out about their war crimes “injured/harmed/damaged” them by causeing them to not be liked, and put them at risk of not being liked. no real danger of real injury=physcical injury. lieing pretending the word injured=being avoided. alkida now hates us even more beause us commited war crimes(now they finally admit alkida/taliban doesnt hate us for its freedom, it hates it for its war crimes(like alkida/taliban been saying all along), and spying on them doesnt prevent alkaida attacks, not murdering their families helps prevent alkida attacks against us)-thats a good thing to be disliked for commiting war crimes. anyone that critisizes corrupt gov members they charge with espionage beacuse their a risk it might “injure” us corrupt gov members by causeing people not to like us corrupt gov members.
not exposeing and arresting murderes can result in them continueing their rampage. allowing overclassifcation can result in corruption being covered up, resulting in innocents being victimized, and wasteing $millions of tax dollars for extra security to protect overclassifed docs, wasteing $millions of tax dollars paying crooks to commit crimes, wasteing $millions of tax dollars paying crooks to illegal occupy a job they dont quailfy for.
its impossible for documents to endanger anyone, only ex someone pointing a gun at someone, can endanger someone. if leaks put anyone at a small risk(tho they dont), its worth it compared to the huge risk of covering up war crimes and letting murderers run loose.
other countries should shame and stop trade w us until manning is free and crooks manning exposed are arrested. us’s war crimes shuold have chilling effects on forign relations.
“alkida knowing about our war crimes hurts nationality seucrity cuz now they wont like us”-thats good that they dont like you for your war crimes, war criminal’s abilty to be secure from prosecution shuold be put at risk. letting war crimnal cover up their crimes and go free puts american lives at risk. they culdnt discredit themself anymore. almost every word the tyrants agianst maning says is a lie. there not fooling anyone. now its only resorted to be as overtly corrupt as possible as a joke and power trip.
alkida doesnt hate the entire us gov over a few us solijers commiting murder, alkida hates us gov beacuse us gov covers up the murders and lets the murderers go free and continue to murder, and punishes the whistleblowers.
alkida/taliban isnt the enemy, murders/tortures/kidnappers.. and gov who covers up murders and lets murderers go free-are the enemy. detering and punishing whistleblowers puts national security at risk by allowing criminals to go unpunished and continue victimizing.
Manning’s revelations saved lives. After WikiLeaks published his documentation of Iraqi torture centers established by the United States, the Iraqi government refused Obama’s request to extend immunity to U.S. soldiers who commit criminal and civil offenses there. As a result, Obama had to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq.
“The revelations put entire Afghan villages at risk of harm from the Taliban for cooperating with US forces”LIE, permalty ban from gov jobs the liar that said that.
opostie speak. exposeing murderes puts the murderer’s at risk and is sapose to result in the murderers to get punished in order to SAVE afgan villiages.
“crisis team, to assess whether the documents contained anything immediately useful to the enemy or identified people who had given information to US forces. He said the team found “a significant number” of such individuals, and also some villages” LIARS WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?
immediatly create a crisis team task force(because everything’s a crisis now a days never let a crisis go to waste) to assess whether overclassified gov documents contain any gov corruption. manning found “a significant number” of corrupt gov individuals, and the world had to be warned they were at risk by us war crminals and corrupt gov members.
“Villages, in and of themselves, for cooperating with the United States, can be retaliated against by the Taliban.”-NOW you finally admit us war crimes are whats makeing people hate us gov(taliban has been saying it hates us for its war crimes all along), NOT whatever other lie raeson you make up.
“He said the United States had a moral and ethical duty to inform those people and communities of the danger”THATS WHAT MANNING DID WHEN HE EXPOSED THE MRUDERS. MURDERS AND WAR CRMINALS PUT COMMUNITIES IN DANGER!
letting murders cover up their crimes and goes free puts villages at risk.
“included details about “a significant number” of people who helped U.S. forces”-LIE. no it didnt, the names were redacted or spelled phonically, us gov already admitted the info leaked wasnt enough to indentify anyone. and helped us forces how?-if helped us forces commit murder/war crimes then their names and details about them should be published.
WHERE IS YOUR PROOF-LIES WITHOUT PROOF.
“leaks did give al_Qaida an advantage of knowing what tactics our military would be using and this could lead to a soldier being killed.”LIAR WITH NO PROOF WHERES YOUR PROOF? knowing your tactic is to murder innocents, and that could lead to a murderous soljier being killed?-thats a good thing.
Aboul-Enein acknowledged that his testimony was speculative(aka a lie).
“Expert Aboul-Enein: Al-Qaida could’ve used info Manning leaked to attack US forces..Al-Qaida members could then create countermeasures and plan ambushes..potentially deduce a pattern of behavior by United States combat forces” LIE WHERES YOUR PROOF? its impossible to use info to attack someone, only physcial weapons like drones, bullets, or beating someone up can attack someone. deduce a pattern of war crimes. war crimes a sigact?
“Aboul-Enein argues that winning the war against militant Islamists…” islamist=someone who treats people worse based on if they are muslims or not. religious percecuters call all muslims islamists. THE WAR ISNT AGIANST MLIITANT ISLAMISTS, ITS NOT ILLEGAL TO BE A MILITANT ISLAMIST FREEDOM OF RELIGION. the war is agianst murderers/tortures…includeing those who murder people based on their religion. fire Navy Cmdr. Youssef Aboul-Enein imdiatly for lieing and wanting to kill people based on their religion or beleifs.
as an expert of militant totalitarist idology, if manning didnt leak war crimes, criminal us forces would be more easily able to get away with attacking, creating countermeasures and planning ambushes agianst innocents. immedalty craete a task force for combatting gov overclassification and corruption.
“Prosecutors are asking an expert on militant Islam to help them show that Pfc. Bradley Manning damaged U.S. interests by disclosing classified information through WikiLeaks.” “damageing us interests”aka makeing it harder to do what your intrested in that is lieing and commiting war crimes? damageing us intrests isnt illegal and isnt what manning is charged with.
“Prosecutors have presented evidence that the leaks put some foreign citizens at risk of harm and hampered U.S. foreign relations. Several ambassadors were recalled or expelled. And there was a pullback in interagency sharing of classified information.”- liar where is your proof any forign citizen was put at risk(exsept potienal forigns citizens who work for us gov who commited misconduct who are at risk of getting fired. thats good that ambassadors were recalled or expelled if they commited gov misconduct. “pullback in interagency sharing of classified information”that will make it easier to gov to cover up its crimes.
us gov might have planted the leaks in Osama bin Laden’s house, u cant trust a gov who wont release the tapes of what happened at the raid, or any proof osama was ever killed. wheres their proof osama ever commited a crime?

“The U.S. military tried to warn anyone who could be identified by enemy forces through WikiLeaks that “they were potentially in jeopardy,” Donegan said.”
LIE. The Iraq War Logs and the Afghan War Diary were years-old reports. Names of local persons are spelled phonetically in these reports, usually with general descriptions of region or cities. The majority of these names were redacted by WikiLeaks prior to release. The U.S. State Department has declared that of the non-redacted names, there was not enough identifying information released on any individual to justify taking preventive action.
manning tried to warn anyone who was in potential jeopardy of being physcially abused by enemy forces though wikileaks.
war criminals and corrupt gov members shuold be indentified and put in jeopardy of being fired/arrested/disliked
“WikiLeaks also endangered Afghan villages that might be perceived as friendly toward U.S. or coalition forces, Donegan said.”
LIE. wikileaks didnt endanger afghan villages that might be perceived as friendly toward U.S. or coalition forces. war criminals/murderers/tortures/kidnappers who manning exposed and us gov lets run loose endanger afghan vllages. those who are friendly to war criminals shuold be disliked. war criminals shuold be put in danger of being defended agianst or arrested. words cant put anyone in danger, only someone ex pointing a gun at you can put you in danger.
He added that “there was absolutely an impact” on the U.S. government from the released diplomatic cables.
thats good their was an impact on us gov from leaks, and that impact was that us war crimes and gov corruption were exposed.
manning leaks didnt do any damage=physcial damage.its impossible to use documents to damage someone, exsept maybe a paper cut. informing people of gov corruption and war crimes so that they will dislike and try to stop it, is good.
the criminals manning exposed are doing damage by murdering, physcially abuseing, destroying property with bombs…
“Manning harmed our national security, violated the public’s trust, and now stands convicted of multiple serious crimes,” said Rep. Mike Rogers of Michigan, chairman of the House Intelligence committee, and Rep. C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger of Maryland, the panel’s top Democrat.
us gov is endangering national security, and violating the public’s trust (by covering up gov corruption, overclassifing, not fireing gov-paid murderers and letting them run loose, and punishing whistleblowers), and now is exposed of commiting multiple serious crimes.
manning made the nation more secure from being victimlized by makeing criminals and corrupt gov members who violated the public’s trust less secure from being disliked/fired/arrested.
“Bradley Manning endangered the security of the United States and the lives of his own comrades in uniform when he intentionally disclosed vast amounts of classified data,” he said. “His conviction should stand as an example to those who are tempted to violate a sacred public trust in pursuit of notoriety, fame, or their own political agenda.”
When the socialist movement gained momentum in the mid-19th century, socialists started useing the word “comrade” as their preferred term of address. In German, this practice was started in 1875, with the establishment of the Socialist Workers’ Party of Germany. In the late 19th century Russian Marxists and other leftist revolutionaries adopted tovarishch (abbreviated tov.) as a translation of the words for “Comrade”. in china, the word comrade was promoted most actively by the Communist Party of China

gov is like a lion hideing in the grass, slowly and quietly sneaking closer and closer to its prey, waiting to pounce on its prey, doesnt want its prey to see it, and wants to be able to see its prey
charge the policicans who use tax payer$ for their prv security when they can afford it for themself instead of buying themself so much lavish golf, vacations, long distance travel, fashion, fancy dinner…, with theft. the politicans theft of $millions+ is much more severe than manning looking at info on a computer w/o permission. they let the poor die while spending $millions punishing whistleblowers.

By: free manning

free manning — Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:50:52 +0000

NSA is guilty of criminal ESPIONAGE, NOT MANNING, according to espionage act: “whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defence with intent or reason to believe that the information to be obtained is to be used to the injury of the United States..”"gross negligence permits”"document”"to be removed from its proper place..or delivered..abstracted..punished by a fine of not more than $10,000, or by imprisonment for not more than two years, or both.”"intent or reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury or the United States..communicated, delivers, or transmits..document..punished by imprisonment for not more than twenty years..”
gov admitted manning leaks didnt put anyone at risk. gov cant proove or point to anything manning leaked that could be used to injure anyone.
manning leaks put no one at risk(exsept might put the crooks he exposed at risk of being fired/arrested/disliked).
only criminals say exposeing/leaking evidence of crimes puts security at risk, because it put’s criminals at risk of being fired or arrested.
allowing criminals who spy on entire non-gov w/o their permit, overclassify gov docs, cover up gov misconduct, or murders who kill innocents, to go unpunished puts everyone at risk.
manning wasnt negligent, wreckless or indiscriminate, he didnt leak all the info he could have leaked.
it is good order and disapline to expose gov’s crimes, hideing gov’s crimes is wrong.
its good to discredit gov members when they commited crimes or arnt doing their job(that is sapose to be protecting people’s rights, not protecting criminals from exposure and proescution)
its good to expose info of w reasonable suspcion of a crime with reason to beleive such info could be used agianst criminals.
arrest who arrested manning. ban from gov jobs who thinks manning should be charged. arrest/charge criminals manning exposed.
arrest who forced him to sleep naked w lights on, or sleep deprivation-abuse. no 1 shuold be put in solitary confiement if they are not directly endangering(ex trying to stab) other inmates. prisoners shuold be allowed visitors. charge whoever locked up manning, $8/hr manning was locked up compensation to manning.
protest and petition to arrest who arrested manning
charge nsa w espionage. put gov under 24-7live public video survailence. subject gov to suprize inspections done by non gov unpaid by gov.
espionage/spying=to look at/listen to/record someone/something w/o their knowledge or permission, and is legal if its looking at/listening to/recording public property, the outside of things that are outside or in public, anything you have permission to see, things w probable cause or potentially resonable suspicion of finding evidence of crime/gov misconduct, and gov info that is legally sapose to be public
Manning was given access to classified documents as a military intelligence analyst-hes not a spy.
leaking classified info is legal. breaching a paid confidentality contact may result in oweing a refund and loss of occupational licence, not arrest. gov confidentiality agreements to keep info secret that is sapose to be public, is illegal and a void contract. leaking classified info that is sapose to be public, or is probable cause of gov misconduct, is honorable, deserve reward, and what people are sapose to do.
‘causing intelligence to be published’, ‘transmitting defense information’, is freedom of press and speech.
manning’s search and seizure is lawful there was probable cause of crime/gov misconduct.
its legal to share (gov info that is legally sapose to be published) with the public
public sector(gov) is sapose to be the public’s employees and be publicly viewable
gov who searches and seizies w/o reasonable suspcion, or wants to cover up govs crimes agianst transparency laws within the consitution(that declare the public is sapose to know all gov does(exsept maybe certian info w 75% of the public’s permit), is a traitor who betrayed their oath to defend the consitution, and betrayed the public by lieing to them saying they are there for national security when actualy they breach national secuirty, and only secure gov criminals from being prosecuted.
“regular statement and account of the receipts and expenditures of all public money shall be published..”-constitution
whistle blower law-cant legally get in trouble for reporting crime/gov-misconduct
its gov’s job to report and try to stop crime/gov-misconduct, and protect everyone=under the law=not letting some get away w the same type of misconduct you dont let others get away with, =no spying on everyone while baning every1 to spy on u
require gov workers report suspected gov-misconduct(exsept under risk. reward reporting gov misconduct under risk.
us army subject schedule no. 27-1 is “the obligation to report all violations of the law of war”
UCMJ: 894. Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition “..REFUSES..to..do his duty or creates..violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny..failure to supress or report mutiny..shall be punished..as..court martial..”
it is a felony to attempt to use the classification system to hide a crime or protect the powerful from embarrassment. Such material remains unclassified after being stamped.
Title18US Code contains the law. Executive order 13526 Sec.1.7.Classification Prohibitions and Limitations.
(a)In no case shall information be classified, continue to be
maintained as classified, or fail to be declassified in order to:
(1)conceal violations of law, inefficiency, or administrative error;
(2)prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency;
..or prevent or delay the release of information that does not require protection in the interest of the national security.”
REDUCING OVER-CLASSIFICATION ACT Public Law 111–258: SEC. 5. ..‘‘(G) in accordance with Executive Order No. 13526..” house and senate passed it, president signed into law October 7, 2010.
those who illegaly search/seize docs(nsa does, manning doesnt) shulnt be arrested, shuld be banned from gov jobs maybe sml fine.
tax payer $ shuold be better spent going after mruders/tortures or helping the poor, instead of overpunishing.
no one who hasnt touched someone agianst their will, kidnapped, physcially trapped, physcially abuse/neglected, murdered, tortured, disarmed, or physcially directly endangered someone(ex pointing a gun at someone), shuld go to life in prison.
retry manning.
Nuremberg Charter was signed by the United States.
Principle IV of the Nuremberg Charter: “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.” Or Principle VII: “Complicity in the commission of a crime against peace, a war crime, or a crime against humanity as set forth in Principles VI is a crime under international law.”
constitution art VI. “in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury…”tyrants agianst manning are obviously obessessed with illegally overclassifing everything includeing the trial. its illegal to disallow the court to be recoreded, the only reason they dont want it public is beacuse tyrants dont want the public to see or there to be evidence of its lies, hypocrisy, crimes of illegally holding gov-paid positions and arresting innocents.

By: arun

arun — Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:27:35 +0000

even though I’m a Thai citizen, i feel for Bradley manning and all the inhumane treatment he’s been through. when asked how many Thai’s would like an opportunity to be American, you’d see countless raised hands as they know it to be the “land of opportunity and freedom”. which obviously includes the right to information by the general public. why then is Mr. Manning being put through all of this insanity? is it because he chose the righteous path of humanity and disclose the truth or is it because he followed what was preached to us since child hood; non violence?
if only the people here were aware of the situation in the states,i can guarantee, not a single hand would be raised for a green card.
even if after all the support by the people Mr. Manning isn’t favored and released, i am glad I’m not a citizen of the “big Nation” where torturing is the ultimate result of humanity.

By: CH

CH — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 18:56:34 +0000

Skeptical One, very good response. We have three lawyers in our family (non-military) but they all three have told us that the “connections” the lawyers have with the judges, the friendships, bondings, “understandings” goes a long way towards being able to win or loose a case.

It’s all about who you know and who you bl**.

I’m very disappointed in Coombs as well.

But than again, I no longer trust our government.

Our government leaders, including our military have sold their souls to satan.

Research Bohemian Grove.

Coombs is a big let down, a do nothing. I wish some high profile lawyer with real connections would have taken Bradley’s case.

But again, our entire Amerikan system is now under the domain of satan and I wasn’t always a Bible Thumper. I don’t say this lightly.

By: CH

CH — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 18:50:45 +0000

Jerry, you said it all, short and sweet.

Very good response.

And yep – there is no real justice in Amerika.

By: CH

CH — Sat, 02 Mar 2013 18:48:44 +0000

Bradley Manning’s lawyer, Coombs and our military judicial system suck BIG TIME.

Bradley Manning should have gotten a medal and the Nobel Peace Prize – not Mohammad Obama.

There will be justice, unfortunately not within this lifetime here on Earth.

OJ kills two people, Casey Anthony killed her own baby as did Patsy and John Ramsey and they get off scott free.

So did the helicopter pilots giggling about gunning down fellow human beings.

Bradley Manning, a human with real honor gets life imprisonment for snitching on our Government’s wrong doing.

Lady Justice is deaf, dumb and blind.

I have no faith in our government nor in our judicial system, both private and military.

Coombs, you’re not working hard enough, you’re not connecting with the right people…..Bradley deserves better.

By: Stephen Quinto

Stephen Quinto — Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:58:14 +0000

It is rather inspiring to read so much ‘real’ comment here ….and to see the extent [and depth] of the support Bradley has gotten. We have been involved in a small way through firedoglake.com for some time. I am sorry that ‘firedog’ had not led to the other, more profound and effective support as we have now found ….and are excited to join. Thank you all for your perspicacity and your courage.

Julian Assange also deserves greater support ….as the bully our Nation has become knows very little restraint when it comes to exercising its power.

It is a great sadness to have to write so piteously of our country. It was once an ideal and a hope to so many of our parents who believed in it, gave their lives for it.

I remember seeing “Hiroshima, Mon Amour” in the early fifties, walking out of the theater and barely making it to the no-parking signpost to hold my body up, so wracked with shame and pain….

To see no end to the ‘collateral damage’ our violence continues to inflict is a grief I shall never forget ….because of it I have left this world and begun work on the next.

We shall nonetheless battle injustice until there is no more of it, so help me God!

By: David Carraher

David Carraher — Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:14:46 +0000

Two troubling points linger after David Coombs’ presentation:
(1) David Coombs presented a long and detailed defense of the Military Court Marshall process. **However, not once did he assert that he believed his client, Bradley Manning, was innocent of the charges against him. Not once did he say that he considered his client a whistleblower.** I find this very troubling. (2) How can David Coombs possibly assert, with total confidence, that client-attorney privileges were being respected, specifically, that his conversations with Bradley M were not being monitored? No one in their right mind would expect tape recorders to be left on the top of a table for everyone to see.

By: SkepticalOne

SkepticalOne — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 06:37:13 +0000

I am not impressed with Manning’s lawyer David Coombs.

First, he does not appear to understand importance of media so he doesn’t talk to them. He should be pounding on the media and not letting the trial be quietly ignored. He has a very important role here.

Second, his high praises of military court are in stark contrast to Ratnick’s description. The military is on trial too and probably will find itself innocent.

Third, his history of Army to Army reserve and unemployed unable to find a job (he cannot excite employers) so he has to hang out his shingle.

Fourth, his discription of himself and how he met his wife sounds nerdy but I won’t say more.

Fifth, his overall demeanor is uninspiring, to say the least.

To Brad and friends at Courage to Resist: beware.

By: Frank Blackstone

Frank Blackstone — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 23:42:06 +0000

Wow I just watchd david Coombs video , He aplauds the military Court systenm , I found that particularly interestin as I disagree whole heartedly , There was once a verry interesting article publishd in News week magazine I beleive , It was publish beceause A young enlisted man had found serious descrepencies in an inspection and gone to the local NIS office to report it , No sooner had he left than the office calld his Co telling them of serious alogations by this enlisted man ..Well they were certainly waiting for him at his ship…His Family had to enlist the help of the local FBI office to git him protection..WELL NOW ,,THE ARTICLE MENTIOND: The FBI made public and it was publishd the NIS and Military Justice is For the Military and in the interest of the Military and No one can expect justice frome telling on there descrepancies . AND WENT ON TO SAY..Anyone descovering a descrepancy should beware of the NIS and Military help..as they will prosicute the indevadual trying to make desclousure,
SO David Coombs thinks there Good and Honest ,HOWEVER…they are for the Best Interest of there Military ..So how can this be Honest and Truthfull? Anyone care to Ask Mr Coombs??