Commentaires sur : Press release: Defense Fund Established to Fight Imprisonment of Accused WikiLeaks Whistleblower http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/ Exposing war crimes is not a crime! Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:03:10 +0000 hourly 1 Par : albert http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/comment-page-1/#comment-6177 albert Thu, 09 Dec 2010 15:56:24 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/fr/?p=5265#comment-6177 truth can not understand how Bradley Manning imprison me what iso was correct. gracis Bradley truth can not understand how Bradley Manning imprison me what iso was correct. gracis Bradley

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Par : James http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/comment-page-1/#comment-1878 James Fri, 13 Aug 2010 20:13:33 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/fr/?p=5265#comment-1878 I wrote: "What I'd like to know is how Manning got to know Lamo, the hacker who turned him in. How did he end up talking to Lamo over the Internet? Was Manning a former hacker?" I forgot that all-important word, "allegedly". The military have to prove that the alleged Internet conversation took place and WAS between Lamo and Manning. I wrote: « What I’d like to know is how Manning got to know Lamo, the hacker who turned him in. How did he end up talking to Lamo over the Internet? Was Manning a former hacker? »

I forgot that all-important word, « allegedly ». The military have to prove that the alleged Internet conversation took place and WAS between Lamo and Manning.

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Par : James http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/comment-page-1/#comment-1876 James Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:59:41 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/fr/?p=5265#comment-1876 @john mccarthy, there is always a group of people happy to condemn others for partisan reasons. They never make any effort to find out the facts because - usually! - they don't care about the facts. On the odd occasion when they are right, it's down to the laws of probability rather than to their diligent efforts at digging up the truth. Thanks for the links. I will have a look at them. @john mccarthy, there is always a group of people happy to condemn others for partisan reasons. They never make any effort to find out the facts because – usually! – they don’t care about the facts. On the odd occasion when they are right, it’s down to the laws of probability rather than to their diligent efforts at digging up the truth.

Thanks for the links. I will have a look at them.

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Par : john mccarthy http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/comment-page-1/#comment-1768 john mccarthy Sun, 08 Aug 2010 07:53:18 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/fr/?p=5265#comment-1768 James, I concurr 100% on your comment re Bradley. With respect to what legal action the government/military may decide on Bradley Manning, we cannot ignore the fact that top secret Pentagon Papers (which actually originated at CIA but the New York Times would not print them with that information so the Pentagon was substituted) were released without any legal action taken against Daniel Ellsberg who was subject to criminal trial and imprisonment because of the top secret security clearance he then maintained. So we have precedence in such matters. See The Secret Team--The CIA And It's Allies In Control Of The United States And The World. http://www.ratical.com/ratville/JFK/ST/ http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id48.html http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id1.html Related articles are located in the left column of each and every page. Bests, John McCarthy vpocvs@gmail.com James, I concurr 100% on your comment re Bradley.
With respect to what legal action the government/military may decide on Bradley Manning, we cannot ignore the fact that top secret Pentagon Papers (which actually originated at CIA but the New York Times would not print them with that information so the Pentagon was substituted) were released without any legal action taken against Daniel Ellsberg who was subject to criminal trial and imprisonment because of the top secret security clearance he then maintained. So we have precedence in such matters.

See The Secret Team–The CIA And It’s Allies In Control Of The United States And The World. http://www.ratical.com/ratville/JFK/ST/

http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id48.html
http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id1.html

Related articles are located in the left column of each and every page.

Bests,
John McCarthy
vpocvs@gmail.com

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Par : esque http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/comment-page-1/#comment-1766 esque Sun, 08 Aug 2010 02:35:13 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/fr/?p=5265#comment-1766 yeah yeah Mde Maupin, that's called a red herring argument where you say "but look at what THEY are doing." I'm sure they'd be happy to post info on say China's internet censorship(LOL for those in the know) opefully this leak will attract more leaks...of all kinds, which has ALWAYS been their M.O. Hope that flag you're wearing maupin, covers the shame of your gov't killing innocents, etc. yeah yeah Mde Maupin, that’s called a red herring argument where you say « but look at what THEY are doing. » I’m sure they’d be happy to post info on say China’s internet censorship(LOL for those in the know) opefully this leak will attract more leaks…of all kinds, which has ALWAYS been their M.O.

Hope that flag you’re wearing maupin, covers the shame of your gov’t killing innocents, etc.

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Par : esque http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/comment-page-1/#comment-1765 esque Sun, 08 Aug 2010 02:30:06 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/fr/?p=5265#comment-1765 Mde maupin: If YOU had actually read the Wilkileaks site, you would see there is info on China, African countries etc...they are equal opportunity...just the Western World has more whistleblowers. Why are you disseminating? Do you think your uninformed opinion trying to use a primary source gives you legitimacy? FAIL. Some of us actually have followed Wikileaks for a long while. Ya know, get off this page and go back to Faux news trolling where you belong. Mde maupin:

If YOU had actually read the Wilkileaks site, you would see there is info on China, African countries etc…they are equal opportunity…just the Western World has more whistleblowers.
Why are you disseminating? Do you think your uninformed opinion trying to use a primary source gives you legitimacy? FAIL. Some of us actually have followed Wikileaks for a long while. Ya know, get off this page and go back to Faux news trolling where you belong.

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Par : James http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/comment-page-1/#comment-1756 James Sat, 07 Aug 2010 23:17:03 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/fr/?p=5265#comment-1756 Those who claim Manning has put lives at risk need to give their evidence, rather than stating a vacuous opinion. Bush put millions of lives at risk by hurriedly invading Iraq when there was no reason to do so ("Secrets and Lies" by Dilip Hiro). Saddam even volunteered to go into exile, but Bush was determined to invade no matter what the cost to the civilian population. 70% of Americans supported Bush. The former president put more lives at risk by willfully ignoring the Geneva Conventions and other international laws designed to protect civilians, prisoners of war, civilian infrastructure, and hospitals. Other international laws were broken which put lives at risk when the U.S. sold off Iraqi state assets and hundreds of firms, removed tariff barriers and flooded the country with foreign (including U.S) goods, creating mass unemployment. The subsequent poverty stoked the insurgency, as helping the insurgency was rewarded with money - well, it beat starving to death!: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/nov/07/usa.iraq1 http://www.harpers.org/archive/2004/09/0080197 Twenty years earlier in 1991, shortly after the first Gulf War, Iraqis rose up against Saddam, and had a good chance of toppling him. Bush Senior responded by giving Saddam permission to fly his military helicopters and quell the rebellion in blood. Why did Bush do this? Because America didn't want Iraqis taking control of their own country - it would have created too much uncertainty. Bush Senior and Wolfowitz don't deny any of what I've stated - it's on the record! So, Saddam was kept in power, and the U.S. imposed brutal economic sanctions that Madeleine Albright admitted on "60 minutes" killed over 500,000 Iraqi children. I could go on and on, and then turn to Afghanistan, and go on and on. The point is, those attacking Bradley don't care about human life - not even babies and children - they care about their mindless loyalty to their group, and distort the facts to suit their own selfish agenda. They never cared about foreign lives before, so why do they care about a supposed handful at risk now? Such individuals have NO credibility. Those who claim Manning has put lives at risk need to give their evidence, rather than stating a vacuous opinion.

Bush put millions of lives at risk by hurriedly invading Iraq when there was no reason to do so (« Secrets and Lies » by Dilip Hiro). Saddam even volunteered to go into exile, but Bush was determined to invade no matter what the cost to the civilian population. 70% of Americans supported Bush. The former president put more lives at risk by willfully ignoring the Geneva Conventions and other international laws designed to protect civilians, prisoners of war, civilian infrastructure, and hospitals.

Other international laws were broken which put lives at risk when the U.S. sold off Iraqi state assets and hundreds of firms, removed tariff barriers and flooded the country with foreign (including U.S) goods, creating mass unemployment. The subsequent poverty stoked the insurgency, as helping the insurgency was rewarded with money – well, it beat starving to death!:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/nov/07/usa.iraq1
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2004/09/0080197

Twenty years earlier in 1991, shortly after the first Gulf War, Iraqis rose up against Saddam, and had a good chance of toppling him. Bush Senior responded by giving Saddam permission to fly his military helicopters and quell the rebellion in blood. Why did Bush do this? Because America didn’t want Iraqis taking control of their own country – it would have created too much uncertainty. Bush Senior and Wolfowitz don’t deny any of what I’ve stated – it’s on the record! So, Saddam was kept in power, and the U.S. imposed brutal economic sanctions that Madeleine Albright admitted on « 60 minutes » killed over 500,000 Iraqi children.

I could go on and on, and then turn to Afghanistan, and go on and on.

The point is, those attacking Bradley don’t care about human life – not even babies and children – they care about their mindless loyalty to their group, and distort the facts to suit their own selfish agenda. They never cared about foreign lives before, so why do they care about a supposed handful at risk now?

Such individuals have NO credibility.

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Par : Les Gabriel http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/comment-page-1/#comment-1678 Les Gabriel Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:44:19 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/fr/?p=5265#comment-1678 America is on a course of self destruction. We are making enemies all over the world. We must get off the oil diet and develop alternate means to supply ourselves, with energy. The technology is there. Bradley manning is a hero,we need to rally behind him. He has shown the mad dogs that are in charge of our country,they are money elitist with no regard for the common man.Perhaps we can avoid the coming wars and death if we withdraw from our insane foreign policies. Many of our elected leaders are bought out,or,are part of the elite. America is on a course of self destruction. We are making enemies all over the world. We must get off the oil diet and develop alternate means to supply ourselves, with energy. The technology is there. Bradley manning is a hero,we need to rally behind him. He has shown the mad dogs that are in charge of our country,they are money elitist with no regard for the common man.Perhaps we can avoid the coming wars and death if we withdraw from our insane foreign policies.
Many of our elected leaders are bought out,or,are part of the elite.

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Par : Mademoiselle Maupin http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/comment-page-1/#comment-1677 Mademoiselle Maupin Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:41:37 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/fr/?p=5265#comment-1677 WHY ISN'T WIKILEAKS PAYING 100% FOR BRADLEY MANNINGS DEFENSE? This is an outrage. At first I truly believed in Wikileaks but now I'm convinced that Wikileaks are nothing but souless exploiting bastards with a media whore complex. They hyped the Collateral Video and the 90,000 documents so now that they have garnered the fame through this poor US soldier why aren't they paying 100% for his defense? They are responsible for this poor guy being in jail. Have anyone of you really read the Wikileaks site? Have you noticed that it's directly targeting the US government and not any other corrupt governments? US and Americans are an easy target and since we have freedom of speech we are most likely to criticize our government which is what a democracy should be able to do hence US is an easy target. Wikileaks could easily get dirt because we aired it out for them. I would like to see Julian Ass. expose Chinese corrupt government officials or top secret videos in China or go to Saudi Arabia and really cause some much needed havoc where individuals get their hands cut off for stealing (just so that they can eat) and basically have no human rights whatsoever. What about the murdered Russian journalists by the Russian government? What about Berlusconi's "gag law" in Italy? If you really want to make a difference then seriously research Wikileaks and ask yourself as well as Wikileaks what is their motivation/agenda and decide if they are really being sincere and have America's best interest at heart. WHY ISN’T WIKILEAKS PAYING 100% FOR BRADLEY MANNINGS DEFENSE?

This is an outrage. At first I truly believed in Wikileaks but now I’m convinced that Wikileaks are nothing but souless exploiting bastards with a media whore complex. They hyped the Collateral Video and the 90,000 documents so now that they have garnered the fame through this poor US soldier why aren’t they paying 100% for his defense? They are responsible for this poor guy being in jail.

Have anyone of you really read the Wikileaks site? Have you noticed that it’s directly targeting the US government and not any other corrupt governments? US and Americans are an easy target and since we have freedom of speech we are most likely to criticize our government which is what a democracy should be able to do hence US is an easy target. Wikileaks could easily get dirt because we aired it out for them. I would like to see Julian Ass. expose Chinese corrupt government officials or top secret videos in China or go to Saudi Arabia and really cause some much needed havoc where individuals get their hands cut off for stealing (just so that they can eat) and basically have no human rights whatsoever. What about the murdered Russian journalists by the Russian government? What about Berlusconi’s « gag law » in Italy?

If you really want to make a difference then seriously research Wikileaks and ask yourself as well as Wikileaks what is their motivation/agenda and decide if they are really being sincere and have America’s best interest at heart.

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Par : Chris http://bradleymanning.org/fr/5265/press-release-legal-fund-established-to-fight-imprisonment-of-accused-wikileaks-whistleblower/comment-page-1/#comment-1647 Chris Thu, 05 Aug 2010 03:22:56 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/fr/?p=5265#comment-1647 Wow, finally a real hero... This man is doing nothing more than being a true american soldier. The DOD needs to be held directly accountable for the act of not only those soldier but for the act of covering it up. This man was put in prison by the military and locked away so he cant voice his side. This man is bring war crimes to our attention while the government once again is telling us lies... Wow, finally a real hero… This man is doing nothing more than being a true american soldier. The DOD needs to be held directly accountable for the act of not only those soldier but for the act of covering it up. This man was put in prison by the military and locked away so he cant voice his side. This man is bring war crimes to our attention while the government once again is telling us lies…

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