Comments on: Update 1/30/13: Forthcoming film likely to perpetuate false Bradley Manning narrative [Updated] http://bradleymanning.org/press/update-12913-forthcoming-film-likely-to-perpetuate-false-bradley-manning-narrative Exposing war crimes is not a crime! Tue, 04 Jun 2013 18:10:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Wei-Ting Chen http://bradleymanning.org/press/update-12913-forthcoming-film-likely-to-perpetuate-false-bradley-manning-narrative#comment-1172 Wei-Ting Chen Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:51:06 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=26983#comment-1172 My feeling is that this film is probably another “dark zero thirty” which is a movie implicitly embraces torture and inhumanity. However, the director defended her film by saying that she just “depicted” the fact, not embraced the torture. That’s a silly comment since it is the way she present those “facts” reveal her purpose not those facts themselves. I saw a psychiatrist said if you examine Jesus according to DSM, you will feel like he had serious mental troubles. The words or behaviors of Jesus were there, but if you look at them in a different way, you get different answers.

The same problem happened for this film. Those descriptions that Manning feel lonely or alienated or his sexual orientation whatsoever might be true. However, there is almost no way to know if they are the motivation for whistle lowing or not. Even they are parts of the reason, it might be a quite indirect and the relation between them can be really subtle. There seems to be nothing in the film provides more details.

From the reply from the film producer indicate this film is like a work of “copy-paste” type of thing. Ya, he put Manning’s own view points about politics and then his colleague’s view points on him, such as “lonely” or “alienated”. This is one of the simplest way of stating causality implicitly, and this was the same way used in “dark zero thirty”.

Just imagine someone makes a film of yourself in this way, taking some of your words and getting other words of your partners, putting them together then saying that’s a film about you, what will you feel? After watching it, you will quite possibly say “WTF, who is the guy on the screen? That’s not me at all.”

By the way, when I see this sentence “But I urge everyone to see the film before they form their judgment of it.” , I had a smile on my face.

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By: Lindi http://bradleymanning.org/press/update-12913-forthcoming-film-likely-to-perpetuate-false-bradley-manning-narrative#comment-1171 Lindi Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:01:08 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=26983#comment-1171 There’s three huge problems with this film and two of them are in your face without even having to watch it:

1. It’s called ‘WE STEAL SECRETS’ which is outrageous on various counts

2. The comments in the interview, especially this:

‘I think it raises big issues about who whistleblowers are, because they are alienated people who don’t get along with people around them, which motivates them to do what they do.’

I think he’s grasping at something here which he totally mangles, because the above statement is absolute shite.

He seems to be ‘trying’ to get something right at points in this DN interview – http://thetruthbyrcoldguy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/we-steal-secrets-alex-gibneys-new.html – he calls Brad a ‘sympathetic’ figure – but he’s obviously got a long way to go still which is a pity.

Sad he didn’t do the whole journey before putting out this film…

Because whistleblowers certainly ARE very special and unusual people (why didn’t any of the other 1000s of people who had access to the info let us know what was going on?) but he gets this all ROUND THE WRONG WAY!

Such special and unusual people (singleminded, courageous, sensitive/ised and highly aware people?)doubtless spend time addressing their and the world’s ‘issues’ instead of blundering on w/o questioning anything like sheep – they are driven to seek truth in all areas, including their own lives (yes, and that’s pretty unusual…)

And indeed in this their focus and single mindedness is self-evidently different from most people’s and this may in turn mean some whistleblowers are sometimes alienated (they sure are AFTER the disclosures!), but it’s rubbish psychology to say their alienation is their motivation, when they are plainly dominated by a conscience toward truth telling, protecting others and exposing oppression.

To say otherwise and to suggest that their ‘alienation’ is actually their ‘motivation’ must imply ‘spite’ or ‘personal/material gain’ and it is quite obvious that neither of these feature in Brad’s case.

3. Either cynically or naively, the very real and serious threats to Julian Assange’s safety from USG are ludicrously dismissed.

One might ask how deep in the sand AG’s head is buried re this. Plainly either his research must be beyond belief incompetent, which is sloppy, or…?

Because even if there wasn’t abundant hard core evidence of a ‘criminal investigation of unprecedented size and scale’ into JA and WL; even if high profile US public figures had not called for JA’s death either legally or by assassination, and even if high level serving politicians had not called him a ‘terrorist’ – even WITHOUT all that hard evidence, you’d have to very very stoopid and/or ignorant to believe that USG is gonna say ‘oh well, never mind – water under the bridge, bud’ and do sweet fa about pursuing him, ESPECIALLY when he says he’s gonna CARRY ON getting the gen out to the public!! HA!

Where do some people put their eyes, ears and brains?

I hope Alex Gibney has the integrity to revisit this.

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By: Pat G http://bradleymanning.org/press/update-12913-forthcoming-film-likely-to-perpetuate-false-bradley-manning-narrative#comment-1170 Pat G Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:55:28 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=26983#comment-1170 The media, the judge, and the prosecutors are determined to reshape the truth of Bradley’s actions and those of other fellow patriotic whistleblowers by divorcing their actions from the valiant patriotic valuable reasons why they took those actions.

This is not only cravenly dishonest, but is also a direct denial of a defendant’s right to a fair trial.

By denying motive the judge is denying Bradley the ability to defend himself from most of the charges, and is denying him the status of whistleblower.

How despicable and unConstitutional is this?

I call this a show trial.

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By: David Jonas http://bradleymanning.org/press/update-12913-forthcoming-film-likely-to-perpetuate-false-bradley-manning-narrative#comment-1169 David Jonas Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:49:25 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=26983#comment-1169 Its awful to think this guy has been in detention for all this time without a verdict.
What kangaroo court is trying this case.

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By: C. Burkey http://bradleymanning.org/press/update-12913-forthcoming-film-likely-to-perpetuate-false-bradley-manning-narrative#comment-1168 C. Burkey Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:17:49 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=26983#comment-1168 How can motive be excluded?
I don’t get it.

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By: Neil http://bradleymanning.org/press/update-12913-forthcoming-film-likely-to-perpetuate-false-bradley-manning-narrative#comment-1167 Neil Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:20:56 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=26983#comment-1167 Hmm, lonely alienated figure, just like Oswald you say? That kinda whitewash has long served to cover up the dark political undercurrents in US life.

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By: kevin ward http://bradleymanning.org/press/update-12913-forthcoming-film-likely-to-perpetuate-false-bradley-manning-narrative#comment-1166 kevin ward Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:24:23 +0000 http://bradleymanning.org/?p=26983#comment-1166 Free Bradley, Julian and John for doing their jobs well. Truth may not set you free, especially if you espouse and embody it but it is critical for good decisionmaking. Otherwise we’d all be foolishly religious.

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